Quantcast

MC Navi 0.2.10 released

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
26 messages Options
12
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Mike Crash
Hi all,

I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now (hope) and have some improvements:
- added support for orchards
- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
- added GPS menu with satellites
- draw the street names

More info here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

This version needs new map, download at:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it is old version. I will regenerate it in some days.
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Thomas Franck
On 09.06.2010 14:25, Mike Crash wrote:
>
> I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
> (hope) and have some improvements:

Nice.. Looking forward to it.. :)


> This version needs new map, download at:

Do you think it would be possible to have a Germany map there, too?
I tried creating/converting a map the other day, but that was no good..
:P :(

Cheers,
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
The meta-Turing test counts a thing as intelligent if it seeks to apply
Turing tests to objects of its own creation.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

signature.asc (259 bytes) Download Attachment
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Yaroslav Halchenko
In reply to this post by Mike Crash
Hi Mike,

sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
downloaded belgium map just for a try:

$> mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm          
Cannot open map

strace shows:

open("/usr/share/mcnavi/maps/map.mcm", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

and quick grepping confirms that path is compiled in:

$> dpkg -L mcnavi | xargs grep map.mcm
Binary file /usr/bin/mcnavi matches


On Wed, 09 Jun 2010, Mike Crash wrote:


> Hi all,

> I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
> (hope) and have some improvements:
> - added support for orchards
> - draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
> - added GPS menu with satellites
> - draw the street names

> More info here:
> http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

> This version needs new map, download at:
> http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
> If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it is
> old version. I will regenerate it in some days.
--
                                  .-.
=------------------------------   /v\  ----------------------------=
Keep in touch                    // \\     (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com
Yaroslav Halchenko              /(   )\               ICQ#: 60653192
                   Linux User    ^^-^^    [175555]



_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Mike Crash
In reply to this post by Thomas Franck
I don't know, Germany is huge, so I have not even tried  to convert it. But it would be possible to convert smaller area. As I finish some functionality I need, the next step will be optimizing map conversion. My goal is to convert the whole Europe in one map if possible.

Thomas Franck wrote
On 09.06.2010 14:25, Mike Crash wrote:
>
> I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
> (hope) and have some improvements:

Nice.. Looking forward to it.. :)


> This version needs new map, download at:

Do you think it would be possible to have a Germany map there, too?
I tried creating/converting a map the other day, but that was no good..
:P :(

Cheers,
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
The meta-Turing test counts a thing as intelligent if it seeks to apply
Turing tests to objects of its own creation.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


 
_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Mike Crash
In reply to this post by Yaroslav Halchenko
You forget -m switch, run it as

mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm

Yaroslav Halchenko wrote
Hi Mike,

sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
downloaded belgium map just for a try:

$> mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm          
Cannot open map
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Davide Scaini
I'll update italy map as soon as i have some spare time :)
d

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Mike Crash <[hidden email]> wrote:

You forget -m switch, run it as

mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm


Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
> downloaded belgium map just for a try:
>
> $> mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm
> Cannot open map
>
>

--
View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-0-2-10-released-tp5158145p5233731.html
Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

_______________________________________________


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

undrwater
In reply to this post by Mike Crash

|I don't know, Germany is huge, so I have not even tried  to convert it. But
|it would be possible to convert smaller area. As I finish some
|functionality
|I need, the next step will be optimizing map conversion. My goal is to
|convert the whole Europe in one map if possible.
|
is it possible to add more detail to your map conversion instructions?  I
have tried several times to do a conversion for portions of the USA without
success.

I believe the problems I've had relate to the difference between .osm and
administrative.osm files.  

Thank you!

Russell Dwiggins


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Yaroslav Halchenko
In reply to this post by Mike Crash
d'oh... thanks -- I thought that I cut/pasted the command from
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Mike Crash wrote:
> You forget -m switch, run it as

> mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm
--
                                  .-.
=------------------------------   /v\  ----------------------------=
Keep in touch                    // \\     (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com
Yaroslav Halchenko              /(   )\               ICQ#: 60653192
                   Linux User    ^^-^^    [175555]



_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Petr Vanek
In reply to this post by Mike Crash
>I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
>(hope) and have some improvements:
>- added support for orchards
>- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
>- added GPS menu with satellites
>- draw the street names

sounds cool, could we please update the 0.2.5 in shr?
thank you very much

Petr


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Martin Jansa
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 08:04:03AM +0200, Petr Vanek wrote:
> >I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
> >(hope) and have some improvements:
> >- added support for orchards
> >- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
> >- added GPS menu with satellites
> >- draw the street names
>
> sounds cool, could we please update the 0.2.5 in shr?

done

--
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: [hidden email]

_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Mike Crash
In reply to this post by undrwater
undrwater wrote
is it possible to add more detail to your map conversion instructions?  I
have tried several times to do a conversion for portions of the USA without
success.

I believe the problems I've had relate to the difference between .osm and
administrative.osm files.  

Thank you!

Russell Dwiggins
All is here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from Cloudmate at
http://downloads.cloudmade.com
e.g.
http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2

I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g. Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this may omit the addresses.

I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...


Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

RE: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

undrwater
Mike Crash wrote
All is here:
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from Cloudmate at
http://downloads.cloudmade.com
e.g.
http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2

I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g. Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this may omit the addresses.

I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...
If you do experiment with USA, here's a request for California.

I just did the following:
Downloaded: california.osm.administrative.bz2, california.osm.bz2
Extracted: both using bunzip2

Ran: osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb california.osm.administrative
which created boundary.mcb without errors

Ran: osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm california.osm
which reports: Error opening file! Error parsing file california.osm
as before.

Is this the correct sequence?

Thanks!
Russell Dwiggins
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Petr Vanek
In reply to this post by Mike Crash
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Crash <[hidden email]> (MC) wrote:

>
>Hi all,
>
>I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
>(hope) and have some improvements:
>- added support for orchards
>- draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
>- added GPS menu with satellites
>- draw the street names
>
>More info here:
>http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
>
>This version needs new map, download at:
>http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
>If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it
>is old version. I will regenerate it in some days.
>
>--
>View this message in context:
>http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-0-2-10-released-tp5158145p5158145.html
>Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


Hi,

i have installed mcnavi during my holidays in past 2 weeks, downloaded
a map of cz from here
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4
, mcnavi starts but no map is displayed... is this the new map format
already?

thank you

petr


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

GarthPS
In reply to this post by undrwater
Hello,

I did nearly the same thing for France and I had the same issue!
osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb france.osm.administrative
all good then
osm2mcmap -bi europe.administrative.mcb -mo map.mcm france.osm
=> Error opening file! Error parsing file france.osm   (which is about 12Go)

And a "cat france.osm" works, so it is not a permission issue.

So help is welcome too!

++

2010/7/8 undrwater <[hidden email]>


Mike Crash wrote:
>
>
> All is here:
> http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
>
> If you have problems with boundary data, download boundary OSM file from
> Cloudmate at
> http://downloads.cloudmade.com
> e.g.
> http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states/washington/washington.osm.administrative.bz2
>
> I have not tried for US, there are only boundaries for states (e.g.
> Washington), not the whole country, it may not have complete (closed
> polygon) boundaries. Also you should skip the boundaries step, but this
> may omit the addresses.
>
> I will do some experiments with USA and Germany in the (near) future. The
> development is not over, 0.2.11 is out with itinerary...
>

If you do experiment with USA, here's a request for California.

I just did the following:
Downloaded: california.osm.administrative.bz2, california.osm.bz2
Extracted: both using bunzip2

Ran: osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb california.osm.administrative
which created boundary.mcb without errors

Ran: osm2mcmap -bi boundary.mcb -mo map.mcm california.osm
which reports: Error opening file! Error parsing file california.osm
as before.

Is this the correct sequence?

Thanks!
Russell Dwiggins

--
View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MC-Navi-0-2-10-released-tp5158145p5272084.html
Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Thomas Franck
In reply to this post by Mike Crash
Hi..

I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into
the same problem:

> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah
> total 70G
> drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 .
> drwxrwxrwx 9 root  root  4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral  60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm
> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm
> Error opening file!
> Error parsing file europe.osm
> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$
does anyone else has that problem?
it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be?

Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;)

Cheers,
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs,
and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case,
I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out
listings of their operating system.
  - Bill Gates
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

signature.asc (259 bytes) Download Attachment
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

GarthPS
Hi
yes  have the same problem while trying to convert the France.
I am wondering if it is not a matter of size...france and germany does quite the same size.
I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :)
But yes please someone help us on this error
"Error opening file!"
And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file because
"cat france.osm" works for me.

thanks!

Sylvain (aka GarthPS)

2010/8/12 Thomas Franck <[hidden email]>
Hi..

I decided to give the converting another go.. but I keep running into
the same problem:

> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah
> total 70G
> drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 .
> drwxrwxrwx 9 root  root  4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral  60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm
> -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm
> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm
> Error opening file!
> Error parsing file europe.osm
> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$

does anyone else has that problem?
it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be?

Any pointers welcome.. and I don't mean these: http://xkcd.com/138/ ;)

Cheers,
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs,
and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case,
I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out
listings of their operating system.
 - Bill Gates
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community



_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Thomas Franck
Hi..

> I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :)

I was under the impression that we need the "continent" boundary so that
the map for the countries can be made..


> "Error opening file!"
> And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file
> because
> "cat france.osm" works for me.

I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name..
but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on
the website) and it gave the same error..

Cheers,
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

signature.asc (259 bytes) Download Attachment
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

GarthPS
It could very helpfull if Mike Crash or those whom succeded in making map like Davide Scaini could bive us some informations..


2010/8/12 Thomas Franck <[hidden email]>
Hi..

> I don't speak about europ.osm, i think your are to optimistic! :)

I was under the impression that we need the "continent" boundary so that
the map for the countries can be made..


> "Error opening file!"
> And by the way it is not a matter of not being able to open the file
> because
> "cat france.osm" works for me.

I wonder if osm2mcmap needs the osm file in a special place.. or name..
but I also renamed europe to map (as that is used in the instructions on
the website) and it gave the same error..

Cheers,
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom.
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community



_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Vladimir Koutny
In reply to this post by Thomas Franck
Hi,

>> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ ls -lah
>> total 70G
>> drwxr-xr-x 2 azral azral 4.0K 2010-08-12 09:56 .
>> drwxrwxrwx 9 root  root  4.0K 2010-08-11 22:40 ..
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral  60G 2010-08-10 08:26 europe.osm
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 azral azral 9.8G 2010-08-10 09:36 germany.osm
>> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$ osm2mcmap -bt 0 -bo boundary.mcb europe.osm
>> Error opening file!
>> Error parsing file europe.osm
>> azral@wraith:/data/mcnavi$
You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building
osm2mcmap - add these defines while building:

CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure
(usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64)

This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail (somewhere
around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the whole file
into memory...)


You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download precomputed
boundary extract from http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
and then use with "-bi" option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too large
to fit into memory space)

Regards,
  Vlado


>
> does anyone else has that problem?
> it said error opening file.. so maybe it's not where it should be?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Openmoko community mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

signature.asc (390 bytes) Download Attachment
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|  
Report Content as Inappropriate

Re: Problem converting maps. was: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

Thomas Franck
Hi..

On 08/12/2010 10:16 PM, Vladimir Koutny wrote:

>
> You have 32bit system and you need to enable largefile support while building
> osm2mcmap - add these defines while building:
>
> CFLAGS=`getconf LFS_CFLAGS` ./configure
> (usually expands to -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64)
>
> This will help with opening the file - but still the conversion will fail (somewhere
> around 7%) due to small address-space in 32bit mode (osm2mcmap loads the whole file
> into memory...)
Excellent pointer! thank you.. will have to look into those 64bit..
finally a reason to change! :D


> You can successfully convert smaller regions though - just download precomputed
> boundary extract from http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3
> and then use with "-bi" option. (Still won't work for germany.osm - it is too large
> to fit into memory space)

Oh.. ic...  though, as I stated in the other mail.. I was under the
impression that we needed the "continent" boundary to do countries..?
does that mean we can use like germany boundary and do cities and areas?

Cheers..
--
Thomas

-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes
hurtling down the highway
  - Andrew S. Tanenbaum
-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~


_______________________________________________
Openmoko community mailing list
[hidden email]
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

signature.asc (270 bytes) Download Attachment
12
Loading...