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Because of the recent efforts of creating a manual for SHR I have looked through the wiki and I have found that there are already several pages that could be seen as manuals for some distributions. However these are totally unstructured. Therefore I'd like to have some kind of standardisation about where the manuals should be put. For example Om 2008: I've found these pages which describe parts of Om 2008: "Getting Started with your Neo ReeRunner", "Om 2008 guide", "Om 2008 Sudoku", "Om 2008 keyboard", "Om 2008 Installer" and "Om 2008 locations". These pages are only loosely connected and hard to find. Therefore I would like to organize these manuals so information can be found more easily and they can be maintained better. My plan would be to separate device-specific information from distribution-specific information. So I'd propose to have device-manuals and distribution-manuals. Device-manuals could be written for Neo FreeRunner, Neo 1973 and probably E-TEN M 800 (SHR semms to work on this device). They would contain information about buttons and connectors, opening devices, inserting SIM/memory card, updating bootloader and GSM-firmware. The first sections of the page "Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner" would be a good starting point for these pages. Distribution manuals would be manuals about certain distributions and basic applications of these distributions, no matter on what hardware they are installed. What do you think? Is this a good idea? _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/7/22, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>:
> Hi! > > Because of the recent efforts of creating a manual for SHR I have > looked through the wiki and I have found that there are already > several pages that could be seen as manuals for some distributions. > However these are totally unstructured. Therefore I'd like to have > some kind of standardisation about where the manuals should be put. > > For example Om 2008: I've found these pages which describe parts of Om > 2008: > "Getting Started with your Neo ReeRunner", "Om 2008 guide", "Om 2008 > Sudoku", "Om 2008 keyboard", "Om 2008 Installer" and "Om 2008 > locations". These pages are only loosely connected and hard to find. > > Therefore I would like to organize these manuals so information can be > found more easily and they can be maintained better. > > My plan would be to separate device-specific information from > distribution-specific information. So I'd propose to have > device-manuals and distribution-manuals. > > Device-manuals could be written for Neo FreeRunner, Neo 1973 and > probably E-TEN M 800 (SHR semms to work on this device). They would > contain information about buttons and connectors, opening devices, > inserting SIM/memory card, updating bootloader and GSM-firmware. The > first sections of the page "Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner" > would be a good starting point for these pages. > > Distribution manuals would be manuals about certain distributions and > basic applications of these distributions, no matter on what hardware > they are installed. > > What do you think? Is this a good idea? > found the page "User's Manual" which is similar to what I had thought of. Unfortunately this page never received much attention. I think we could use this page as a starting point for the manuals. However, as I've said before, I'd like to create one manual for each distribution, and not one big manual where we put everything. What I like about the concept of the existing manual is the structure of the pages: There's one overwiew page called "User's Manual" and several subpages labelled "User's Manual/Om 2008.8 Guide", "User's Manual/Dialer", "User's Manual/Contacts",... I think we could keep this concept and create "User's Manuals/Neo FreeRunner", "User's Manuals/Neo 1973", "User's Manuals/SHR", ... I think I'll start this transition in the next couple of days when I have the time for it. _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/7/22, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>:
> 2009/7/22, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>: >> Hi! >> >> Because of the recent efforts of creating a manual for SHR I have >> looked through the wiki and I have found that there are already >> several pages that could be seen as manuals for some distributions. >> However these are totally unstructured. Therefore I'd like to have >> some kind of standardisation about where the manuals should be put. >> >> For example Om 2008: I've found these pages which describe parts of Om >> 2008: >> "Getting Started with your Neo ReeRunner", "Om 2008 guide", "Om 2008 >> Sudoku", "Om 2008 keyboard", "Om 2008 Installer" and "Om 2008 >> locations". These pages are only loosely connected and hard to find. >> >> Therefore I would like to organize these manuals so information can be >> found more easily and they can be maintained better. >> >> My plan would be to separate device-specific information from >> distribution-specific information. So I'd propose to have >> device-manuals and distribution-manuals. >> >> Device-manuals could be written for Neo FreeRunner, Neo 1973 and >> probably E-TEN M 800 (SHR semms to work on this device). They would >> contain information about buttons and connectors, opening devices, >> inserting SIM/memory card, updating bootloader and GSM-firmware. The >> first sections of the page "Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner" >> would be a good starting point for these pages. >> >> Distribution manuals would be manuals about certain distributions and >> basic applications of these distributions, no matter on what hardware >> they are installed. >> >> What do you think? Is this a good idea? >> > I've just have a deeper look into the existing pages of the wiki and > found the page "User's Manual" which is similar to what I had thought > of. Unfortunately this page never received much attention. > I think we could use this page as a starting point for the manuals. > However, as I've said before, I'd like to create one manual for each > distribution, and not one big manual where we put everything. > What I like about the concept of the existing manual is the structure > of the pages: There's one overwiew page called "User's Manual" and > several subpages labelled "User's Manual/Om 2008.8 Guide", "User's > Manual/Dialer", "User's Manual/Contacts",... > I think we could keep this concept and create "User's Manuals/Neo > FreeRunner", "User's Manuals/Neo 1973", "User's Manuals/SHR", ... > I think I'll start this transition in the next couple of days when I > have the time for it. > 1973, Neo FreeRunner, Om 2007.2 and Om 2008. The new manuals are available at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals The next question is: how do we link to these manuals? I'd propose to replace the "Getting Started" link in the navigation box which is linking to the obsolete page "Getting started with your Neo FreeRunner" - I think we should replace that link with a link to "Manuals" - Is that okay? _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/8/4, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>:
> 2009/7/22, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>: >> 2009/7/22, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Because of the recent efforts of creating a manual for SHR I have >>> looked through the wiki and I have found that there are already >>> several pages that could be seen as manuals for some distributions. >>> However these are totally unstructured. Therefore I'd like to have >>> some kind of standardisation about where the manuals should be put. >>> >>> For example Om 2008: I've found these pages which describe parts of Om >>> 2008: >>> "Getting Started with your Neo ReeRunner", "Om 2008 guide", "Om 2008 >>> Sudoku", "Om 2008 keyboard", "Om 2008 Installer" and "Om 2008 >>> locations". These pages are only loosely connected and hard to find. >>> >>> Therefore I would like to organize these manuals so information can be >>> found more easily and they can be maintained better. >>> >>> My plan would be to separate device-specific information from >>> distribution-specific information. So I'd propose to have >>> device-manuals and distribution-manuals. >>> >>> Device-manuals could be written for Neo FreeRunner, Neo 1973 and >>> probably E-TEN M 800 (SHR semms to work on this device). They would >>> contain information about buttons and connectors, opening devices, >>> inserting SIM/memory card, updating bootloader and GSM-firmware. The >>> first sections of the page "Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner" >>> would be a good starting point for these pages. >>> >>> Distribution manuals would be manuals about certain distributions and >>> basic applications of these distributions, no matter on what hardware >>> they are installed. >>> >>> What do you think? Is this a good idea? >>> >> I've just have a deeper look into the existing pages of the wiki and >> found the page "User's Manual" which is similar to what I had thought >> of. Unfortunately this page never received much attention. >> I think we could use this page as a starting point for the manuals. >> However, as I've said before, I'd like to create one manual for each >> distribution, and not one big manual where we put everything. >> What I like about the concept of the existing manual is the structure >> of the pages: There's one overwiew page called "User's Manual" and >> several subpages labelled "User's Manual/Om 2008.8 Guide", "User's >> Manual/Dialer", "User's Manual/Contacts",... >> I think we could keep this concept and create "User's Manuals/Neo >> FreeRunner", "User's Manuals/Neo 1973", "User's Manuals/SHR", ... >> I think I'll start this transition in the next couple of days when I >> have the time for it. >> > I finished the first phase of restructuring for the manuals on Neo > 1973, Neo FreeRunner, Om 2007.2 and Om 2008. The new manuals are > available at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals > The next question is: how do we link to these manuals? I'd propose to > replace the "Getting Started" link in the navigation box which is > linking to the obsolete page "Getting started with your Neo > FreeRunner" - I think we should replace that link with a link to > "Manuals" - Is that okay? > As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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>> I finished the first phase of restructuring for the manuals on Neo >> 1973, Neo FreeRunner, Om 2007.2 and Om 2008. The new manuals are >> available at >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals >> The next question is: how do we link to these manuals? I'd propose to >> replace the "Getting Started" link in the navigation box which is >> linking to the obsolete page "Getting started with your Neo >> FreeRunner" - I think we should replace that link with a link to >> "Manuals" - Is that okay? >> >No replies again ... It's getting a little boring on this list! :-) >As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can >one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" >link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) afaik very few people has stayed onboard of openmoko, there should be list of people who still do have access to change things if needed. Brenda is gone and i don't see a difference of her having the access or Marko having it... what can we do to change this? get a list of people and extend it somehow? Petr _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/8/8, Petr Vanek <[hidden email]>:
> >>> I finished the first phase of restructuring for the manuals on Neo >>> 1973, Neo FreeRunner, Om 2007.2 and Om 2008. The new manuals are >>> available at >>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals >>> The next question is: how do we link to these manuals? I'd propose to >>> replace the "Getting Started" link in the navigation box which is >>> linking to the obsolete page "Getting started with your Neo >>> FreeRunner" - I think we should replace that link with a link to >>> "Manuals" - Is that okay? >>> >>No replies again ... It's getting a little boring on this list! :-) >>As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can >>one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" >>link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) > > afaik very few people has stayed onboard of openmoko, there should be > list of people who still do have access to change things if needed. > Brenda is gone and i don't see a difference of her having the access or > Marko having it... what can we do to change this? get a list of people > and extend it somehow? > > Petr > > > _______________________________________________ > documentation mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation > She always updates the sidebar when there are new community updates. However it might in fact be better to have a sysop who is more involved in the project. _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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> >>> What do you think? Is this a good idea?
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Marko Knöbl wrote:
> 2009/8/8, Petr Vanek <[hidden email]>: >>> No replies again ... It's getting a little boring on this list! :-) >>> As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can >>> one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" >>> link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) >> afaik very few people has stayed onboard of openmoko, there should be >> list of people who still do have access to change things if needed. >> Brenda is gone and i don't see a difference of her having the access or >> Marko having it... what can we do to change this? get a list of people >> and extend it somehow? >> >> Petr >> > I think Brenda is still a little active in the wiki as user Coolcat. > She always updates the sidebar when there are new community updates. > However it might in fact be better to have a sysop who is more > involved in the project. in case you want to change anything and need more permissions, just holler. -- Joachim Steiger ex Openmoko Central Services _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/8/11, Joachim Steiger <[hidden email]>:
> Marko Knöbl wrote: >> 2009/8/8, Petr Vanek <[hidden email]>: > >>>> No replies again ... It's getting a little boring on this list! :-) >>>> As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can >>>> one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" >>>> link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) >>> afaik very few people has stayed onboard of openmoko, there should be >>> list of people who still do have access to change things if needed. >>> Brenda is gone and i don't see a difference of her having the access or >>> Marko having it... what can we do to change this? get a list of people >>> and extend it somehow? >>> >>> Petr >>> > >> I think Brenda is still a little active in the wiki as user Coolcat. >> She always updates the sidebar when there are new community updates. >> However it might in fact be better to have a sysop who is more >> involved in the project. > > in case you want to change anything and need more permissions, just holler. > > -- > > Joachim Steiger > ex Openmoko Central Services > Yes, that would be great! Could I get permissions to edit the sidebar and delete pages? marko _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/8/11, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>:
> 2009/8/11, Joachim Steiger <[hidden email]>: >> Marko Knöbl wrote: >>> 2009/8/8, Petr Vanek <[hidden email]>: >> >>>>> No replies again ... It's getting a little boring on this list! :-) >>>>> As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can >>>>> one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" >>>>> link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) >>>> afaik very few people has stayed onboard of openmoko, there should be >>>> list of people who still do have access to change things if needed. >>>> Brenda is gone and i don't see a difference of her having the access or >>>> Marko having it... what can we do to change this? get a list of people >>>> and extend it somehow? >>>> >>>> Petr >>>> >> >>> I think Brenda is still a little active in the wiki as user Coolcat. >>> She always updates the sidebar when there are new community updates. >>> However it might in fact be better to have a sysop who is more >>> involved in the project. >> >> in case you want to change anything and need more permissions, just >> holler. >> >> -- >> >> Joachim Steiger >> ex Openmoko Central Services >> > > Yes, that would be great! > Could I get permissions to edit the sidebar and delete pages? > > marko > editor who has got more permissions! I don't care if it's me or somebody else, but there should be someone who can do tasks like editing the sidebar or deleting pages. _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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2009/8/8, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>:
> 2009/8/4, Marko Knöbl <[hidden email]>: >> I finished the first phase of restructuring for the manuals on Neo >> 1973, Neo FreeRunner, Om 2007.2 and Om 2008. The new manuals are >> available at >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manuals >> The next question is: how do we link to these manuals? I'd propose to >> replace the "Getting Started" link in the navigation box which is >> linking to the obsolete page "Getting started with your Neo >> FreeRunner" - I think we should replace that link with a link to >> "Manuals" - Is that okay? >> > No replies again ... It's getting a little boring on this list! :-) > As nobody is opposing I think this can be changed as I suggested. Can > one of the sysops (Brenda?) change this? (Replacing "Getting Started" > link on the left with a link to "Manuals"?) > I hope that's okay. _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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> As I just got the necessary permissions today I just changed this now. > I hope that's okay. Great news! Do you also have perms to delete Candidates for speedy deletion? This part of wiki needs some attention too. P.S. Who exactly gave you permission? I need to speak to her/him regarding another issue. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point _______________________________________________ documentation mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation |
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